Double dipping
This article describes historical game content.
Double dipping is an unofficial name for a game mechanic when the same damage modifier applies twice to a single damage source. This mechanic primarily applied to damage over time ailments, prior to its rework in Version 3.0.0.
Previously, ailments dealt damage based on the final hit after damage modifiers, which meant if a damage modifier applies to both the hit and the ailment, then the ailment will gain increased damage on top of the damage increase of the initial hit.
Mechanics
These are the conditions for double dipping to occur:
- Damage from one source is based on another source' damage (e.g. bleed, ignite or poison are based on the initial hit).
- A modifier grants a generic stat that can apply to different damage sources (e.g. increased Area Damage or increased Elemental Damage). See these other keywords for more examples.
Then the interaction can be explained as follows:
The modifier applies to
the damage of the 1st source |
⇒ | The damage of the 2nd source is based on
damage dealt from the 1st source |
⇒ | The modifier applies to
the damage of the 2nd source |
As a result the modifier has been applied twice to the second modifier. It's worth to note that the second time it applied it multiplied itself.
Examples
Ignite
Let's use FireballFireballProjectile, Spell, AoE, Fire
Level: (1-20)
Cost: (6-25) Mana
Cast Time: 0.75 sec
Critical Strike Chance: 6.00%
Effectiveness of Added Damage: 370%
Projectile Speed: 1040
AoE Radius: 9Unleashes a ball of fire towards a target which explodes, damaging nearby foes.Deals (9-1640) to (14-2460) Fire Damage
25% chance to Ignite enemies
Base radius is (0.9-1.4) metres
Additional Effects From 1-20% Quality:
Base radius is (0.01-0.2) metresPlace into an item socket of the right colour to gain this skill. Right click to remove from a socket. for this example. It is a fire based spell so both #% increased Elemental Damage and #% increased Spell Damage can scale it. Since the skill deals fire damage it is possible to ignite enemies, dealing 20% of the initial hit as fire damage over time. This is a different damage source compared to the initial FireballFireballProjectile, Spell, AoE, Fire
Level: (1-20)
Cost: (6-25) Mana
Cast Time: 0.75 sec
Critical Strike Chance: 6.00%
Effectiveness of Added Damage: 370%
Projectile Speed: 1040
AoE Radius: 9Unleashes a ball of fire towards a target which explodes, damaging nearby foes.Deals (9-1640) to (14-2460) Fire Damage
25% chance to Ignite enemies
Base radius is (0.9-1.4) metres
Additional Effects From 1-20% Quality:
Base radius is (0.01-0.2) metresPlace into an item socket of the right colour to gain this skill. Right click to remove from a socket. projectile so it's possible for double dipping to occur if the right stat is used.
Elemental Damage
Assume that the character uses a level 20 FireballFireballProjectile, Spell, AoE, Fire
Level: (1-20)
Cost: (6-25) Mana
Cast Time: 0.75 sec
Critical Strike Chance: 6.00%
Effectiveness of Added Damage: 370%
Projectile Speed: 1040
AoE Radius: 9Unleashes a ball of fire towards a target which explodes, damaging nearby foes.Deals (9-1640) to (14-2460) Fire Damage
25% chance to Ignite enemies
Base radius is (0.9-1.4) metres
Additional Effects From 1-20% Quality:
Base radius is (0.01-0.2) metresPlace into an item socket of the right colour to gain this skill. Right click to remove from a socket. and has 100% increased Elemental Damage that affects the skill gem.
- The spell hits the enemy and deals Failed to parse (syntax error): \color[RGB]{163,141,109} 1,640 \times (1 + 1.00) = <strong class="error">Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character ",".</strong> fire damage to it.
- The enemy is successfully ignited, dealing a base Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): \color[RGB]{163,141,109} <strong class="error">Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character ",".</strong> \times 0.20 = <strong class="error">Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character ",".</strong> fire damage per second.
- The damage over time is also affected by the applicable modifiers, dealing Failed to parse (syntax error): \color[RGB]{163,141,109} <strong class="error">Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character ",".</strong> \times (1 + 1.00) = <strong class="error">Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character ",".</strong> fire damage per second for 4 seconds.
In this case the 100% increased Elemental Damage was applied twice because it can apply to different damage sources.
Spell Damage
Assume that the character uses a level 20 FireballFireballProjectile, Spell, AoE, Fire
Level: (1-20)
Cost: (6-25) Mana
Cast Time: 0.75 sec
Critical Strike Chance: 6.00%
Effectiveness of Added Damage: 370%
Projectile Speed: 1040
AoE Radius: 9Unleashes a ball of fire towards a target which explodes, damaging nearby foes.Deals (9-1640) to (14-2460) Fire Damage
25% chance to Ignite enemies
Base radius is (0.9-1.4) metres
Additional Effects From 1-20% Quality:
Base radius is (0.01-0.2) metresPlace into an item socket of the right colour to gain this skill. Right click to remove from a socket. and has 100% increased Spell Damage that affects the skill gem.
- The spell hits the enemy and deals Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): \color[RGB]{163,141,109} 1,640 \times (1 + 1.00) = <strong class="error">Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character ",".</strong> fire damage to it.
- The enemy is successfully ignited, dealing a base Failed to parse (syntax error): \color[RGB]{163,141,109} <strong class="error">Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character ",".</strong> \times 0.20 = <strong class="error">Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character ",".</strong> fire damage per second.
- The damage over time is also affected by the applicable modifiers, dealing Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): \color[RGB]{163,141,109} <strong class="error">Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character ",".</strong> \times (1 + 0.00) = <strong class="error">Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character ",".</strong> fire damage per second for 4 seconds.
In this case the 100% increased Spell Damage didn't apply twice because ignite damage, which is a damage over time, does not scale off spell damage.
Version history
Version | Changes |
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3.0.0 |
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1.0.2 |
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